yacaimei 發表於 2022-8-1 20:30

给大家出道题

昨天遇到的一手牌,觉得这种情况其实是蛮常见的,我改了一下,变得更加general了。Hero手上拿AA, preflop raise,HU pot,我们IP。flop出来dry board,check bet call。pot 10,我们每人还有40.对方check,我们bet 10,对方check raise all in。根据我们判断,他要不有set,要不就是比我们小的over pair,KK,QQ。也就是说不是5%-95%就是95%-5%。那么,到底他们多少%可能是set,我们call all in是breakeven的呢?如果其他条件不变,equity是20%-80%/80%-20%呢?如果其他条件不变,SPR on turn是3?SPR on turn是5?有没有一个简单的公式或方法,只要我知道equity(先假设对称equity,譬如不是6-4就是4-6,不是2-8就是8-2)和SPR,迅速能找出breakeven point?(假设hero bet pot,get c/r allin)

yacaimei 發表於 2022-8-1 20:48

这道题答案不难,但是如果在具体碰到的时候不可能有这么多时间慢慢算,所以我想能不能先找几个简单的情况,具体碰到后就可以找到相近的model,帮助分析。

Jac 發表於 2022-8-1 21:03

对手的紧松怎么考量?

yacaimei 發表於 2022-8-1 21:26

对手的紧松怎么考量?这个和松紧是无关的。

伟大的墙 發表於 2022-8-1 21:46

Ok, you did not give the board. let suppose the board was 278He has 12 possibalities of KK and QQand he also has 9 possibalities of 22, 77 and 88.then calculate if you should call or fold.i do not need think a long time, it is a calling decision.but if you put him on 2 pairs, it is much more complicatedthe calculation like thisthere were 20+10=30 in the pot. as soon as he all in for 40, you need 30 to win 70, you only need 30% chances to win, call it.

yacaimei 發表於 2022-8-1 22:03

Ok, you did not give the board. let suppose the board was 278He has 12 possibalities of KK and QQand he also has 9 possibalities of 22, 77 and 88.then calculate if you should call or fold.i do not need think a long time, it is a calling decision.but if you put him on 2 pairs, it is much more complicatedthe calculation like thisthere were 20+10=30 in the pot. as soon as he all in for 40, you need 30 to win 70, you only need 30% chances to win, call it.我傻了,看了墙兄回复才反应过来。因为这里equity对称,正好可以抵消忽略不计了,只要考虑pot odds就好了,我算出来答案一样,但是把这个问题想复杂了。如果把问题改在flop上,either是set or FD,这样稍微有点意义。

skizzik 發表於 2022-8-1 22:20

fold不到200NL以上,baluga几乎永远是对的

yacaimei 發表於 2022-8-1 22:28

fold不到200NL以上,baluga几乎永远是对的如果根据baluga,那应该是call

satangx 發表於 2022-8-1 22:57

大哥解释下baluga是什么啊?我也不知道是什么,看着像八格牙路。
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